The Countertop Chronicles

"Run by a gun zealot who's too blinded by the NRA" - Sam Penney of RaisingKaine.com

Sunday, March 07, 2004

John "Potty Mouth" Kerry

Drudge is reporting that Democratic Presidential Candidate John "The Communist Manifesto" Kerry has a problem with foul language on his web page. According to Drudge's article, posted 7:51 PM EST, the Kerry people promised the offending language would be taken down. Well, I did my own search for it at 10:00 pm and as you can see, as of the time this entry was published F**k and S**t still show up.

In case Kerry does get around to taking these down, I saved the offending search result pages for posterity; S**t and F**k.

He ought to be ashamed of himself.

Are You Pet Prepared?

This is an interesting article* on things to think about concerning your pet as you prepare for disaster contingencies.

I took my black lab Beauregaurd to the Vet today. He's a geat dog and doing very well, which is to be expected for a Four Year old. The Dr. does think he needs to lose a little weight (he wieghed 94 pounds ... we'd like to get him down to 85 (his weight last year), but the vet wants him at 79). FWIW - I have a bug out bag especially for him.

*Alpha Rubicon shares an incredible amount of knowledge on various firearms systems and surviving in disaster situations. I discovered the page in the days following 9/11 and check it out every know and then. I have little knowledge about the group, I make no judgments on them. My general sense is that they are some sort of survivalist/militia group but I do not know for sure. In any case, I have no connection to them, and neither approve nor reject any think they say. I simply posted the link since I think they do have interesting insights into disaster preparation and on general firearms knowledge.

Saturday, March 06, 2004

Understatement of the Year

St. Louis has a real reason to be blue
At the time, Brown was wanted on warrants for burglary, trespassing and other charges related to the Christmas Eve incident.

"We've tried to arrest him a few times, but he was elusive," said Sgt. Williams.

"The Butlers thought something like this might happen, and they're a little upset with us for not having arrested him."

What, pre tell, happened for the Butlers to be pretty upset?
James and Suzanne Butler had retired for the night Friday when a man who they say had been harassing them for a year kicked in their back door and rushed into their bedroom, armed with a rifle and a handgun.

"He was shooting with the rifle as soon as he came into the bedroom," Butler said in a telephone interview Sunday from his home outside Rolla, Mo. "My wife grabbed the barrel and she got shot, but it allowed me the time to get my gun" from a nightstand drawer.

Butler fired several shots, killing David W. Brown, 45.

In a just world, the American Trial Lawyers Association (Contact them, and tell 'em what you think*) would be filing lawsuits against police departments that shirk their fiduciary duties to the community, and not going after firearms manufacturers who allow heroic, victimized, citizens like the Browns to defend their lives.


*disclaimer; I am an on again - off again (depending on whether I remember to send my dues in) member of ATLA, their basic trial support services for litigation attorney's are unmatched

John "Ixnay Ationalnay Ecuritysay" Kerry

That would be John "Nix National Security" Kerry for you non pig latin speakers.

Check out this great site on Kerry. Thanks to the Colonel for the link.

We Are Free, Free At Last!!

The closely divided and progressivly more liberal Virginia Senate (home of the $4 billion tax incease) unanimously passed HB 1144, HB 1302, and HB 404. HB 1144 & 1302 which allow Virginia residents to lawfully purchase long guns from licensed dealers in other states passed by overwhelming unanimous votes on March 1.. HB 404 which allows holders of valid Virginia concealed-carry permits to purchase more than one handgun a month passed by a tally of 29-11 on March 4..

The Virginia Citizens Defense League has a great tracking tool on Virginia legislation with lots more info. Now, if only I could carry concealed in restaurants and bars (alcohol free for me, thanks).

NRA Gun Debate Wrap Up

The NRA-ILA included this handy wrap up of the gun debate in their latest email alert.

SENATE SINKS LAWSUIT BILL
ATTEMPTS TO REENACT GUN BAN AND END GUN SHOWS GO DOWN WITH SHIP


Now that the dust has settled over S. 1805, the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act," it is time for us to take stock of where we stand in ultimately passing a "clean" lawsuit bill, regroup, and pursue the most effective legislative and grassroots strategies to accomplish this goal.

While we have noted that, in its original form, S. 1805 had the support of a majority of U.S. Senators and the Administration, it is also important to acknowledge other groups who supported the lawsuit bill. These include: organized labor (including United Mine Workers, United Steel Workers, United Auto Workers, and International Association of Machinists union members), the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Manufacturers, and the National Association of Wholesaler-Distributors.

As amended, S. 1805 was no longer the same bill that was originally introduced and supported by this broad-based coalition. Despite our best efforts, legislation that simply sought to halt the abuse of our court system by holding the lawful firearm industry liable for the acts of criminals, was weighed down with anti-gun amendments, thus making it unacceptable. Plain and simple, the anti-gunners in the U.S. Senate played politics with this critical bill.

Commenting on the failure of the Senate to pass a "clean" lawsuit bill, NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox noted, "Despite the fact that the U.S. House of Representatives passed a ?clean` lawsuit bill last year on an overwhelming bipartisan vote, Senate opponents of S. 1805 decided that playing election year gun control politics was more important than passing a bill that had the support of a majority of U.S. Senators and the Administration. While NRA is disappointed by the actions of those Senators who used political gimmickry to kill a bill that had such broad-based support, we were not willing to allow the lawsuit bill to be used as a vehicle to foist more gun control on the American people. U.S. Senators have now made their positions on these crucial issues known, and rest assured we will inform our four million members and the nation`s 65 million gun owners of their actions, so they may take these votes into consideration on Election Day."

The vote on the Feinstein Amendment to reenact the 1994 Clinton gun ban was 52-47. And while it garnered four fewer votes than it did in 1993, this ban does not deserve to be extended for even one second longer than its scheduled demise on September 13!

NRA led the fight in opposition to the ill-conceived Clinton gun ban in 1994. We led the successful House effort to repeal the ban two years later, and we are leading the fight to ensure the Clinton gun ban deservedly expires on September 13. From public speeches, articles in NRA publications, ads in national newspapers, communications to lawmakers, the development of a website (www.ClintonGunBan.com), and meetings with our members, NRA has been vocal and unambiguous about our position on this issue. The same can be said about the McCain-Reed Amendment that was attached to S. 1805, which would have ended gun shows as we know them.

Senator Larry Craig (R-Idaho) did an outstanding job representing gun owners throughout the entire debate, and is to be applauded for his efforts in laying out the case against the Clinton gun ban, and for the importance of passing a lawsuit bill free of anti-gun amendments.

Rest assured our opponents will continue to work at every turn to try and accomplish their anti-gun goals. It is therefore critical that you continue to contact your lawmakers in opposition to reenacting or expanding the Clinton gun ban, as well as restricting gun shows.

This whole process highlights some of the pitfalls currently involved with passing proactive firearm legislation. But it is a battle worth fighting! Allowing these reckless lawsuits to continue unabated will be disastrous for the American firearm industry, and for your right to lawfully own firearms. We owe it to ourselves, and all gun owners across the Country, to continue this fight until we pass a "clean" lawsuit bill; whether it is this year, or next year, after the 2004 elections. When we succeed in ultimately enacting a "clean" lawsuit bill into law, it will represent a monumental step forward for our rights. Rest assured we will keep you informed of our efforts.

In the meantime, please visit www.NRAILA.org to find out how your U.S. Senators voted on the Feinstein and McCain-Reed Amendments, and contact them accordingly to make your views known. ILA`s Grassroots staff is ready to assist you, so please call them at (800) 392-8683. Or visit ILA`s website at www.NRAILA.org for additional information on these issues and to utilize ILA"s "Write Your Representatives" feature that will allow you to identify and contact your U.S. Senators.

Thank you again for your continued activism on this issue and for your work in the future to enact this critically-needed reform!

Gun Porn

Behold, The Knights Armament SR-47.


This just might be my new favorite weapon. I've got to get my hands on one.

Knight's is a manufacturer of mighty fine AR15s and M16 type rifles for civilian and military purposes. I had the pleasure of trying out one of thir AR15s at the NRA HQ Range some time ago. It was especially sweet.

This example comes from Quarterbore's great fan page where he discusses all Knight's related gossip and even has a few breaking press releases. He posted this press release on the SR-47.



New SR-47 merges designs
SCOTT GOURLEY, JDW Correspondent, California

US special operations forces have received a small number of new assault rifles optimised for the type of cave-complex fighting experienced in Afghanistan.

The weapons are based on the M-4/M-4A1 carbine variants of the M-16 assault rifle family, but fire the 7.62 x 39mm Soviet-designed cartridge and magazines used in the AK-47 assault rifle.

Knight's Armament Company of Vero Beach, Florida, delivered the first six rifles, called the SR-47 (Stoner Rifle-47), to the US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) in January. The company received a contract for an initial six weapons in late October 2001.

David Lutz, vice president of military marketing for Knight's Armament Company, said: "For the last couple of years there was a requirement in USSOCOM for an addition to their [M-4 series carbine] SOPMOD [Special Operations Peculiar Modification] kit that they called a 'Special Purpose Receiver' (SPR).

"Originally they called it the SPR V1 for 'variant one', and it was to be a drop-in 7.62 x 39mm receiver replacement."

According to Lutz, government laboratory efforts to satisfy the SPR requirement were further complicated by "user input" from the USSOCOM specifying that special forces did not want to use the "straight box" M-16 magazines but instead wanted to utilize "battlefield pick-up" AK-47 magazines taken from opponents.

"That was a dilemma because the AK-47 magazine won't go well in a straight chute dimensional magazine - it just won't happen," he said.

He added: "But actually this program was kind of on a back-burner until US special operations guys were going into these complex of tunnels that were so deep, expansive and target-rich that they couldn't take enough loaded M-16 magazines. So they wanted a weapon that had all the muscle memory of an M-4 - safety, grip, everything that's familiar to the soldier or the SEAL - but capable of using battlefield pick-up magazines."

Instead of a drop-in receiver addition to the SOPMOD kit, design changes mandated a completely new weapon with resulting change in terminology from Special-Purpose Receiver to Special-Purpose Rifle (SPR).

"To enable the use of battlefield pick-up magazines, we had to make the upper and lower receiver 0.25in longer. You couldn't take an M-4 receiver and even machine it out to take the AK-47 magazine because it was too short. That also meant that the bolt carrier had to be made longer and the firing pin had to be made longer.

"So you started losing what some people would have liked to have in terms of optimal interchangeability of parts; that's just part of the trade-off to fire the different cartridges," Lutz said.

He highlighted the advantages of the 7.62mm size round for close-quarter battle (CQB) operations. Noting that many of the world's counter-terrorist organizations have evolved from 9mm to 5.56mm ammunition over the last decade, he highlighted the larger 7.62mm ammunition for the ability to package heavier, slower bullets that could provide greater contributions in CQB scenarios.

In addition to the extended upper and lower receivers, another challenging design effort in the SR-47 involved getting the M-4/M-16 magazine catch to externally function like the M-16 magazine but work with a curved AK-47 magazine. In practice, US soldiers use gravity to 'drop' their empty M-16 magazines. The SR-47 design requires the introduction of an internal magazine ejector to push the empty AK-47 magazine from the bottom of the weapon. Additional design features include the introduction of a free-floated match grade barrel.

"This particular 7.62 x 39mm is probably the most accurate 7.62 x 39mm in the world because it's got a really fine free-floated barrel," Lutz added.

"And, of course, it has the rail system so all of the other SOPMOD accessories off the M-4s are compatible.

"There's also a possibility, although they haven't let the contract yet, that there could be another variant that we'd call the SR-74. That could be used if our special operations guys go to a country that has the 'newer' 5.45mm former Soviet weapons. Then they would also have the same ability to pick up magazines."

All six of the SR-47s were delivered with sound suppressors, which Lutz described as "essential" in tunnel operations because of the weapon report.

"We don't know how the six did," he said. "We don't know if they are ever going to order one more. We don't know if we're going to get the second phase, which is to develop the 5.45mm version. But this is probably the hottest weapon that's out there right now."

Lutz concluded: "The SR-47 is a great gun because of the three technologies that it marries: the basic Stoner gun design; the AK-47 series cartridge and magazine; and the modular weapon concept."

Rally In Richmond

Passing this on from the Club for Growth. Unfortunatly I'll be here in DC fighting the good fight.

RPV Rally Opposing a Statewide Tax Increase
and Supporting a Referendum


The Republican Party of Virginia is holding a rally in support of the Allen/Kilgore/Howell/Wilder tax referendum and our opposition to the proposals by the Governor and Senate for a massive statewide tax increase.

 When:   Monday, March 8 - 11:00 a.m.

Where:  The Bell Tower at the State Capitol, Richmond


As the tax debate continues in the General Assembly, it is critical that Republicans send a strong message to elected officials that we are firmly opposed to increasing the tax burden on hardworking Virginians. RPV has been working tirelessly during this Session to make your views known.  Join us as we call on legislators and the Governor to allow the people of Virginia to have input in the debate over the proposals to raise taxes.  The people were denied a voice in the November elections because the Governor refused to release his tax plan.  Now we must make our voices heard.
 
Help us make a strong statement!  Please plan to come to the rally, and bring friends and family!  We are sorry for the short notice, but things are moving quickly and it is imperative that we make this statement.

For more information, please contact Jeff Britt at RPV, (804)780-0111.

Friday, March 05, 2004

Top Ten Pic of the Year

Unless we go to war again this year, and are deluded with tons of great photos, this will certainly be amongst the top ten pics I see this year (though it was taken in September 2003).

I thought it was a fake at first, but apparantely its real and was taken from the flight tower.

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Here's the story I got with it. There is more on it at f-16.net. (And Here, here, and here. This is the incredible in-cockpit video and ground crew video. WOW!)



A pilot's error caused a Thunderbirds F-16C to crash shortly after takeoff during a September airshow at Mountain Home Air Force Base, Idaho. The pilot ejected just before the aircraft impacted the ground.

On Wednesday the 21st, the Air Force Accident Investigation Board held a news conference at the home of the Thunderbirds - Nellis Air Force Base - to announce what caused an F16 to crash last September.

According to the accident investigation board report the pilot, 31-year-old Captain Chris Stricklin, misinterpreted the altitude required to complete the "Split S" maneuver. He made his calculation based on an incorrect mean-sea-level altitude of the airfield. The pilot incorrectly climbed to 1,670 feet above ground level instead of 2,500 feet before initiating the pull down to the Split S maneuver.

When he realized something was wrong, the pilot put maximum back stick pressure and rolled slightly left to ensure the aircraft would impact away from the crowd should he have to eject. He ejected when the aircraft was 140 feet above ground - just 0.8 seconds prior to impact. He sustained only minor injuries from the ejection. There was no other damage to military or civilian property.

The aircraft, valued at about $20.4 million, was destroyed.

The difference in altitudes at Nellis and Mountain Home may have contributed to the pilot's error. The airfield at Nellis is at 2,000 feet whereas the one at Mountain Home is at 3,000 feet. It appears that the pilot reverted back to his Nellis habit pattern for s aplit second. Thunderbird commander Lt. Col. Richard McSpadden said Stricklin had performed the stunt around 200 times, at different altitudes during his year as a Thunderbird pilot.

McSpadden says Stricklin is an exceptional officer. "He is an extremely talented pilot. He came in here and made an honest mistake," says Lt. Col. McSpadden. But that mistake has cost Stricklin his prestigious spot on the Thunderbird team. "He's assigned to Washington D.C.," says McSpadden. "He's working in the Pentagon there in one of the agencies."

The maneuver the pilot was trying to complete is called the "Split S Maneuver." The stunt requires that the pilot climb to 2,500 feet. Investigators say Stricklin only climbed to 1,670 feet before he went into the spinning roll.

The board determined other factors substantially contributed to creating the opportunity for the error including the requirement to convert sea level altitude information from the F-16 instruments - to their altitude above ground and call out that information to a safety operator below.

But the Air Force has now changed that as a result of the crash. Thunderbird pilots will now call out the MSL (mean-sea-level) altitudes as opposed to the AGL (above-ground-level) altitudes.

Thunderbird pilots will now also climb an extra 1000 feet before performing the Split S Maneuver to prevent another mistake like the one on Sep.14, 2003 from happening again.

Captain Chris Stricklin has been in the Air Force since 1994 and flew with the Thunderbirds since their first season. He has logged a total of 1,500+ flight hours and has received numerous awards. He served as a flight examiner, flight instructor and flight commander.

The Thunderbirds will again take to the skies this year. They have 65 air shows scheduled.

The September crash was the second involving a Thunderbirds jet since the team began using F-16s in 1983.

Pilot error was blamed for a Feb. 14, 1994, training crash involving in a maneuver called a spiral descent at the Indian Springs Auxiliary Airfield, northwest of Las Vegas. The pilot survived, but the maneuver was discontinued.

The worst crash in Thunderbird history, dubbed the "Diamond Crash," came when four pilots crashed Jan. 18, 1982, during training at Indian Springs. A malfunction in the lead plane was blamed.

NEWSFLASH: Bank Robber Breaks Law, Carries Gun.

This bank robbery took place a block from my office (2 blocks from the White House) the other day at my bank. It happened just as I was about to leave for lunch on one of the gorgeous spring like days we've been having here in D.C.

Of course, the Washington Post, as always, has some choice quotes.

Bob Barbour and Conrad Fair, who work in a nearby office building, said the guard ran out and stood over the wounded man, who picked up the shotgun but dropped it again. The guard then kicked away the gun, they said.

"I thought the guard did a phenomenal job," said Barbour. "He could have killed him, and he didn't."

The guard then held a gun on the robber for several minutes until police arrived.

"For probably 10 minutes," Fair said, the guard didn't move.

After police arrived, the two said, the guard sat down by himself on the sidewalk.

"You could tell he was upset," Barbour said


Now, lets deconstruct ...

"I thought the guard did a phenomenal job," said Barbour. "He could have killed him, and he didn't."
Oh, thats great. A guy tries to rob you and shoot you in broad daylight with a shotgun, reaches for it after you have already shot him, and will now survive to rob another bank (or perhaps this same bank) another day. Not what I call a good job, seems the guard didn't finish his job. This scumbag is a candidate for a darwin award but the stupid cop managed to interfer and prevent him from attaining it. Only in DC (and maybe New York, and SF, and Chicago, and Boston, and LA) would this be considered a good thing. Good grief.


The guard then held a gun on the robber for several minutes until police arrived.

"For probably 10 minutes"


Folks, there is a shooting on a busy street corner 2 F'ING blocks from the White House, in the most heavily monitored and policed city in the world and it STILL takes anywhere from several minutes to ten minutes for the cops to show up.

let me ask you a question then ... when this scum bag gets released from jail next summer who'se home is he gonna break into to rob and rape? Is it gonna be mine in Virginia, where we make sure we finish what scum bags start? Or is he gonna find some poor defensless little old black lady in South East where the security isn't as tight as around the white house? Why, of course he's gonna pick on th elittle old lady - not because she's a little old lady, but because she can't legally own a gun and the police arent't going to show up till hours after he's done his deed.

Stories like this get my blood boiling. How can the african american community continue to allow itself to be hoodwinked by the rascist gun control policies of the democratric party? Please, someone tell me because it doesn't make any sense.

D.C.: Gun Control Experiment and Murder Capitol of the World, Gun Control

Why.I.Hate.DC has a chart on the left side tracking the murder rate in DC this year.

By The Way, Guns are illegal so I guess people are getting killed with baseball bats, skillets, and frozen sides of beef. Couldn't be guns, cause their illegal, right?

John "57 Ways To Screw Your Country" Kerry

In the latest Democratic Primary news, John Kerry just picked up his most recent endorsement. North Korean Dear Leader Kim Jong-il, a charter member of the axis of evil, has been offering glowing praise for Mr. Kerry and broadcasting his speaches over KCNA, the official mouthpiece of the tyranical, meglomanical, brutal murdering dictator.

Hey, with friends like these, who needs to appeal to average Americans.

I just wonder if their buddy buddy relationship stated with an introduction from Hanoi Jane.

Commie News Network Joins the fun

FYI, the Commie News Network is running the same biased space article I linked to yesterday. Again, their headline (the extent of what most people read) states it is only a former Astronaut and not a former senator. Of course, to CNN's credit, the picture they run is of Glenn and his good buddy John "57 Opinions One Topic" Kerry.

On a similar but related note, the always visited Glen Reynolds is tracking the similar treatment of complaints over Bush's recent ads.

Thursday, March 04, 2004

The Reuters Quagmire

IN a page straight out of the New York Times, Reuters (and Yahoo!!!!!!!!!!!) trumpet the news thatFormer Astronaut Glenn Criticizes Bush Space Plan. Of course, its only when you click on the link from Yahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s home page and read a couple of paragraphs down that you discover - oh golly gee stop the presses - that John Glenn was also a Democratic Senator.

Of course, after slipping in that one little admission the article never again treats Glenn like the biased and nasty partisan he is - but rather gives him free reign to attack the President as a disinterested expert in the field.

This is such hogwash. Folks, its as if the New York Times ran a front page story "War Hero's Object To Bush's Military Strategy" and then only quote John "Ketchup Boy" Kerry, tha haughty, french looking democrat, who by the way served in Vietnam.

The Passion of the 6th-Graders

So, a teacher at Malcom X Elementary School here in D.C. is on administrative leave after showing excerpts of the Passion of the Christ to his 6th Grade students.

I've yet to see the movie (though I have seen the trailer) and as such, I am reserving comment on its content. However, I find it intriguing that the assistant superintendent would comment on the content of the scenes shown when he had no idea what scenes were shown. In fact, as the article discloses, its unclear if the children were shown the movie itself or simply the comming attraction preview which is invariably geared towards a wider audience than the movies rating

It was unclear yesterday how the Malcolm X teacher obtained the excerpts. The promotional Web site for "The Passion of the Christ" includes some clips, and Wilhoyte was uncertain whether those scenes were presented to students or whether the teacher obtained a bootleg copy of the film, which has not been released on video.


Kevin "Shameless Promoter or Marion Jr." Chavous of course finds the showing

"totally unacceptable"


But of course, he finds everything unacceptable.

Light Postings

Some of you may have noticed that I've essentially dropped off the face of the earth the last couple of days. Well, thats sort of true. I've been crazy busy at work and between a staff retreat earlier this week causing me to miss Tuesday's vote (but the food was real good) and a quickly approaching project deadline of noon tomorrow, I've had sorry little time for blogging.

Look for a bigger and better recap of all the weeks events sometime tomorrow afternoon (as well as an update to the gun porn et al)

Dick's Take, Bush v. Kerry

Dick Morrisis essentially correct in pointing out how Bush can take Kerry out now (though I've always been intrigued with the medias fascination in him. He never says anything original). However, strategically, I part ways with him on timing. Kerry is peaking right now, and still not doing good enough to win. I would hate to see Bush ramp up his efforts so soon, only to peak in August or September, and succomb to a late surge from Kerry.

I like his ad strategy right now. Remind voters about his strong (they should not use steady....ugh its horrible) leadership and once ALL primaries are over, unleash a blizzard of attacks on Kerry that don'tlet up till we try him for way crimes committed 30 years ago.

Wednesday, March 03, 2004

John "America Hater" Kerry, The Choice of Oppressor's

The Independent has an interesting piece declaring that John "America Hater" Kerry is the clear presidential choice of America's sworn enemies.


If the human race as a whole, rather than 50 states plus the District of Colombia, could cast a ballot this coming November, John Kerry would surely win the presidency by a landslide.


Well, thank god they can't cast a ballot and doesn't this beg the questions .... Why would any American vote for this traitor?

Wictory Wednesday

So, have gun banning presidential candidates pissed you off? Run of the mill gun banning democrat congressmen and senators? Has that clueless twit a-hole John Kerry got your blood boiling in a rage.

Well, do not despair. There is hope and there are things you can do!

Don't Get Mad. Get Even!

Today is Wictory Wednesday. Every Wednesday from now till election day, I will ask my readers to volunteer and/or donate to the Bush campaign if they haven't done so already. And if you have volunteered and donated, then get a friend to join you. It's the only way to defeat the lying liberal media and their special interest pandering whores in Congress and in the Kerry Campaign.

If you're a blogger, you can join Wictory Wednesday simply by putting up a post like this every Wednesday, asking your readers to volunteer and/or donate to the president's re-election campaign.



Monday, March 01, 2004

What A Debate

According to the Geek's account, it looks like I missed some choice debate. I agree, Craig for Pres!!!

gun show

will apply to any event with 75 or more guns for sale and take no longer than 24 hours - not instant by my clock

Columbine

Columbine is symptomatic of everything - according to the banners

Reed

Talking about gunshow sales

There is a break

Not sure why - I left the desk for a few minutes and they are on a break. I've got a meeting to run to, so blogging will be light over the next hour or so (sorry, I do have to earn a living) and as I stated, I will be out of the office tomorrow.

But don't fear, at a minimum, blogging will continue today with some thoughtful updates tomorrow and all your vote totals

Plus, I promise to name names

Big City

Feinstein thinks its a big city question - where they are used by gangs. She thinks its an issue of big city crime fighters concerned over danger vs. rural collectors.

She thinks we need to side with urban areas over the rest of the country that doesnt understand them.

Also states they can fire 30 rounds in 3 seconds. Uh...what gun is she talking about?

DeDumb

Mike "DeDunce" DeWine thinks these are dangerous weapons that are a threat to the country, to our very foundations!!!! Oh the inujustice!!!!!!!!!!!

He wants to know why we are repealing the law ... because thats what the failure to re-enact it is.

DeWine

These guns have No Legitimate Use. We know why people buy guns - for legitimate reasons - hunting, self defence.

He says No Legitimate Gun owners would own these - and that its not a legitimate weapon for anyone to own, unless they intend to kill a large amount of people

I take personal affront to that statement!

Dave Kopel on Cop-killers

Dave Kopel is talking about Kennedy'sammo ban at NRO Online. Check it out.

Mike DeWine

Mike "DeWeasel" DeWine is talking about how important the AW Ban is. Rattling off statisitics on the number and identity of supporters as well as how many crimes are caused ... perhaps he has been drinking TOO MUCH WINE!!

Criminal Misuse

Showing his own statistics.

BEfore the ban - less than 2%
After the ban - less than 2%

Talking about misuse of tracing data ... and statistics.

Craig is great, btw

Criminals

Criminals will still have them, regardless of ban, because they dont buy these off the shelf.

GOing over the 2/3rd reduction ban ....

Uzis and AK47s

Both were banned under 1985 law, and 1990 amendment.
1993 assault pistols act. 1994 revolving cylinder shotguns (streetsweeper) banned. These will still be illegal!!!

Semi Auto shotguns

Now he's talking about what Semi AUto shotgun attachments arent allowed.

and pointing out what is banned by other laws that will still be banned

Grenade Launcher

Points out that grenade launchers are outlawed under the NFA - and will still be even if the AWB sunsets

Criag on Hunting

Feinstein is wrong - these are used for hunting. POints out someone named Mary from Idaho who hunts deer with an AR15 because as a women who is smaller it is easier for her to carry it long distances.

FBI Statistics

Rifles of any kind are used in only 3% of crime.

Machine Guns

Banned in 1934 - thats when Congress banned them - hence this law doesnt apply to them.

Craig's now talking about the ridiculous parts attachment classification scheme under the AWBan -

Semi Auto

Craig is going over the long history of semi autos - talking about them in the mid 1800s Americans own 30+ million semi auto rifles and shotguns.
15% of privatly owned firearms are semi auto (this surprises me, I would have thought the number was higher)

Now he is talking about the uses of all the guns banned by the ban - Sporting Clays!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many, including some effected by the ban - valued by collectors and comonly kept for protection against crime and criminals.

Nothing intrinsically more dangers - in fact they do less damage than a shotgun and are functionally identical to thousands of other models.

These are not machine guns, and Feinstein is making people think these are fully automatic. Not clearly understood. These do NOT SPRAY BULLETS!!!

The Semi Auto Ban

Craig doesn't want to call it the assault weapon ban, he wants to call it the semi auto ban and thats what he is calling it.

Good for him. He is recounting the skepticism in congress at the time about whether it can do what it claims to.

The results are in. . .these firearms have not generally been used in crime

Nelson is done

Craig is back up - talking about the misuse of statistics and how the statistics actually show something different than Feinstein stated

Bill Nelson - The Astronaut

Bill "Space Cadet" Nelson is on the floor now, talking about Haiti. Hmm, not directly assault weapons related, except that it shows how THE PEOPLE, can TAKE CONTROL or THEIR GOVERNMENT when THEY ARE ARMED.

He wants to talk about the future of Haiti and the need to stabalize it and how many Coup d'Tets have occured over its 200 year history. Oh, thats what he's getting at .. we didnt stay for the long haul to pull itself up and we didnt continue to help them understand how to function well (at least he ain't blaming it on the guns, yet)

Let Us Not Forget

Feinstein is saying the NRA wants murders to happen and thats why they oppose this. Bullturd!! Perhaps, Ms. Feinstein ought to visit some concentration camps and remind herself why we have the 2nd Amendment.

NAACP et al

She is listing all the groups that support it. NAACP, Urban Police Chiefs, etc.

Just the people we need these guns to protect us from.

She is mentioning Long Island Rail shooting.

She says these people are invincible because of high caps.

But ... if we all carried then these people would be taken out and taken out EARLY!!!!!

she is again reminding us that Bush supports reauthorization.

We can't delay we can't delay. She is hopeful.

Thank goodness the house will strip anything out.

We Can Shoot Ducks

Breaking News - No Ban
We Can Still Shoot Daffy Duck!!!!

650 guns are allowed,

Feinstein

Uzi's, Tec 9s (in the DC police headquarters - where guns are outlawed regardless)

She is going on about concealability (collapsible shoulder mounts, etc)

Tragedy, tragedy, etc etc etc

ugh. Puhleeeeese

wait - she admits, even after the ban was in effect the Columbine guys used one.
But she hopes the availability of the guns dries up because it limits the manufacture and SALE of them.

More stringent bill

She know wants something closer to California's ban - but says she couldn't get it

She is talking about how horrible AK-47s are. Its not used to hunt, at least animals.

Talking about Patrick Purdy with an assault weapon modeled after the AK-47 ... problem is, her ban doesnt effect AK47s

Feinstein's On

Nauseating -

Dianne Feinstein just took the floor to offer amendment identical to S. 2109 (Assault Weapons Ban) and is thanking Sen. Warner, Chafee, etc.

Claims it makes us safe from disgruntled employees and angry students.

Never listened to her, but one thing that is apparant here is that she is a horrible public speaker.

Mentions Columbine, etc. and is now talking about body armor and some cop finding himself gunned down after facing someone with 2,000 rounds. She says it takes 150 cops to equal the firepower of some gunman clad in body armor.

She is referring to us as Gunnners and is now attacking the NRA and their strength and how much stronger the will of the American People is the strongest - that 70% of Americans and 66% of gun owners support it - and that america is safer for it.

She says the percentage of assault weapons used in crime has decreased by 2/3 - and has some chart.

What - is that 3 crimes dropped to 1??????

Actually, I think it shows originally 4% of crimes to 1.2% of crimes now . . .

Says it prevents drive by shooting and grievence shooting. She is talking about the exact guns now.

We Are Live

We are live, just waiting for the debate to begin. Daschle's on teh floor right now, talking about health care, and generally delaying things.

Oh, how torn he must be - between supporting his party's (and it is HIS party) desire to ban guns and his desire to be re-elected. Some day's I can't tell which way he will fall.

Monday Song Lyric

Today's Monday Song Lyric is from a long time favorite of mine, Widespread Panic. For most of the 90s Widespread Panic was one of, if not my, favorite band to listen to. Carrying the torch of the Allman Brothers Band, Panic grew from the early hippy rock trio of John Bell, Michael "Panic" Houser, and Dave Schools to become a powerhouse blues based southern rock and roll band. In recent years, and most profoundly after the passing in 2002 of original guitarist Michael Houser (Pancreatic cancer), the band has drifted away from the deep and eerie blues sounds of their earlier years to a more festive, jassy, New Orleans sound. C. Brown, an early song and fan favorite, is also a departure from the ominous, bass heavy, slow tempoed blues numbers the band built their reputation on. With a mudely of acoustic guitars built over the thunderous rythym section andJohn Bell growling lyrics, its a touching story of American's favorite childhood hero finally lashing out after years of abuse and taking a tragic, but altogether expected, stand.

C.Brown

Widespread Panic/Jeff Riley



C. Brown wakes from bed
Brushes his teeth and he combs his head for school
Out the door and down the street
Down to the corner and a bus and some friends that he's supposed to meet
But there, not to his surprise
His friends have gone and they've told C a lie


But you can walk on with me
You don't even need to say a word
You don't have to worry about the others


I C (see) him and he runs up fast
Kicks at the air his friends watch him fall and then laugh
Charlie really likes his friends
But in his heart he knows that sometimes a dog is as good as any man
Trying to do as we should
That doesn't always rhyme with doing what feels good


But you can sit in the grass; it feels good
You don't even need to think a word
You don't have to worry, don't worry


Charlie there is drawing a gun
Right there in the square he's sketched Lucy on the run
Aims his eye, cocks his head
In a cloud of dust, dear old Lucy's gone
Charlie's only trying the golden rule
Draw unto others as they have been drawn to you


And you can walk on home with me
You don't even need to think a word
You don't have to worry...

You've Got To be F'ing Kidding Me - Kerry Warner !?!?!?!?!?

The Wall Street Journal's John Funddiscusses the scam Virginia Republican's fell for and some possible short term political opportunities for our in-famous Gov. Warner.

I wouldn't be surprised, heck Warner did a great job hoodwinking Virginia gun owners (his Sportsmen for Warner Committee became a model for all future gun banners) and the state legislature.

The result of his shady political style: while we don't have any major new restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms, some of our goals have not been met resulting in a one gun a month limit in far too many counties, a ban on concealed carry in restaurants (and a likely ban on open carry too), and the shaky foundation of preemption between state law and stricter local laws (in particular Alexandria) concerning concealed carry. Of course, on the tax front, Warner is the "conservative alternative" compared to the $4 billion tax increase proposed by senate Republicans.

Beware any Kerry - Warner Ticket!!

Friday, February 27, 2004

Slow Day

Its been a pretty slow day ... I think I'm gonna head out of here. I'll blog lightly this weekend.

Look for the next edition of our gun porn to pop up Sunday - Highlighting the Gun Orgy the Bro and I are having Saturday PM. Y'all are invited to join us at the NRA HQ Range.

Also, late Sunday I'll post the Monday Song Lyric. It'llbe a goody this time.

Back to the debate on Monday (and if they start up again this afternoon, I'll let you know).

Just found out I will be out of the office on Tuesday so sadly I am gonna miss blogging on the most important and exciting day yet. Oh well, I might be able to blackberry into the blog. Im gonna test the technology out this weekend.

John McCain just took the floor

McCain is on the floor and has been talking with Former Gov. Hamilton (??) and Keen (R-NJ) and Sen. Lieberman to discuss 9/11 Commission - they are going to agree to an additional 30 days on top of the additional 60 days they already have to wrap up their report.

Any time I see McCain I shudder in fear. Is he going to rant on about the Climate Change Hoax again? Or the Gun Show hoax? Or maybe his efforts to destroy the first amendment??

McCain used to be a fairly straight shooter - but his fame has gotten to him and now he just cares about getting on the news.


Leiberman just came on the floor to follow up and discuss the commission.

Voting Rights

Frist is talking it up about the Voting Rights Act again and how important it is to extend it permanently.

Oh, and for those of you keeping score . . . . .

Al Gore Voted Against The Voting Rights Act!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget it. Don't let the Dem's forget their history of unfettered racisms, violence, and intolerance.

Asbestos

Frist now wants to talk about Asbestos litigation.

Is he trying to kill this bill???????????

Macedonia

Frist just came to the floor to announce that the President of Macedonia died in a place crash. Said he was a great friend of the United States.

Indicated there is still some negotiating going on and it will be some time before they take to the floor again.

Not Much Missed

Well, after checking in with the The GeekWithA.45 it looks like I didn't miss much. Just random mornign biz blathering on Haiti and stuff.

Ugh

I'm Back

I'm back from lunch and there is a quorum call. Not sure what its about. But let me catch up, and I'll catch you all up.

Brady Shenanigans

Oh, we are sooo scared. Seriously, this is so sophmoric. The Commie Mommies are complaining that Craig is advocating for a position that helps the NRA Puhleeeeesee

Thanks to the Geek for the link.

Brady Campaign Files Senate Ethics Complaint Against NRA Board Member Who is Chief Sponsor of Bill to Give NRA Civil Immunity; Craig's Sponsorship, Efforts on Gun Industry Immunity Bill 'In Clear Violation of the Senate Ethics Rules' Complaint Charges

2/27/04 12:36:00 PM


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To: National Desk

Contact: Peter Hamm of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence united with the Million Mom March, 202-289-5792

WASHINGTON, Feb. 27 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence this morning delivered a complaint to the Senate Ethics Committee, arguing that Senator Larry Craig has "impermissibly acted in his capacity as a Senator to further the interests, including the financial interests, of an organization for which he serves as a member of the Board of Directors."

Senator Craig (R-ID) is the Sponsor and Senate Floor Manager of the bill before the Senate that would provide broad immunity from civil litigation to gun manufacturers, gun dealers and trade associations in the gun industry. As a trade association under the definition of the bill, the National Rifle Association (NRA) would benefit from the legislation. Senator Craig serves on the Board of Directors of the NRA. "Because of this conflict of interest, Senator Craig should immediately recuse himself from any further action on this bill, including any votes," said Michael Barnes, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence united with the Million Mom March.

The complaint states "nothing could present a more obvious and glaring conflict than that presented here, where an agent or representative of the NRA (Senator Craig) is attempting to carve out unique and unprecedented immunity from the civil justice system for the NRA, some of its members, and the rest of the gun industry. What makes the conflict here particularly extraordinary is that Senator Craig is using his legislative position to carve out a narrow, special exemption to the law that only applies to his organization and its gun industry members and allies, in order to further their financial interests." It is signed by Barnes.

The full text of the complaint letter follows.

Feb. 27, 2004

The Honorable George V. Voinovich, chairman

The Honorable Harry Reid, ranking member

Committee on Ethics, United States Senate, Hart 220, Washington, D.C. 20510

Dear Chairman Voinovich and Ranking Member Reid:

The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, by this letter, brings an ethics complaint against Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) for violating the Senate Ethics Rules. Senator Craig has impermissibly acted in his capacity as a Senator to further the interests, including the financial interests, of an organization for which he serves as a member of the Board of Directors. Specifically, Senator Craig is the sponsor of, and floor leader for, pending legislation that would provide legal immunity to the National Rifle Association ("NRA"). He also serves as a member of the NRA's Board of Directors. Senator Craig is serving two masters, in clear violation of the Senate Ethics Rules, particularly Senate Ethics Rule 37(2).

-- The Facts --

Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) is a member of the Board of Directors of the National Rifle Association. He is also the sponsor of S. 659 and its alternative, S. 1805.

The National Rifle Association ("NRA") is a "trade association" under S. 659 and S. 1805. Under S. 1805, "trade association" is an "association or organization" with three elements: 1) it is "not operated for profit;" 2) two or more members are manufacturers or sellers of firearms; and 3) it is involved in promoting the business interests of its members. Under S. 659, only the first two elements need be met.

The NRA meets all three criteria, thus qualifying it as a trade association under both bills. It is an association or organization that: 1) is not operated for profit; 2) has two or more members who are manufacturers or sellers of firearms; and 3) is involved in promoting the business interests of its members. Indeed, the NRA has called the passage of Senator Craig's gun industry immunity bill its "top legislative priority."

As a "trade association," the NRA, Senator Craig's organization, receives immunity from many civil liability actions under S. 659 and S. 1805, including negligence suits. Any manufacturer and seller members of the NRA also receive this immunity. The immunity received by the NRA, its manufacturer and seller members, and other firearms trade associations and companies under these bills is not enjoyed by any other industry.

-- The Law --

Senate Ethics Rule 37(2) states: "No Member, officer, or employee shall engage in any outside business or professional activity or employment for compensation which is inconsistent or in conflict with the conscientious performance of official duties." The Senate Ethics Manual states:

The legislative history of this provision states that it "should be read to prohibit any outside activities which could represent a conflict of interest or the appearance of a conflict of interest." The Committee has interpreted this paragraph to prohibit compensated employment or uncompensated positions on boards, commission, or advisory councils where such service could create a conflict with an individual's Senate duties due to appropriation, oversight, authorization, or legislative jurisdiction as a result of Senate duties.

Senate Ethics Manual at 66-67 (emphasis in original) (note 1). See also Nelson Committee Report, which accompanied the Senate Code of Official Conduct, S. Rept. 49, 95th Cong. 1st Sess. 41 (1977) (provision "should be read to prohibit any outside activities which could represent a conflict of interest or the appearance of a conflict of interest").

Therefore, the Senate Ethics Rules bar Senator Craig from serving on the NRA's Board where that service conflicts with his Senate duties. Nothing could present a more obvious and glaring conflict than that presented here, where an agent or representative of the NRA (Senator Craig) is attempting to carve out unique and unprecedented immunity from the civil justice system for the NRA, some of its members, and the rest of the gun industry. What makes the conflict here particularly extraordinary is that Senator Craig is using his legislative position to carve out a narrow, special exemption to the law that only applies to his organization and its gun industry members and allies, in order to further their financial interests.

The facts here present a grave conflict of interest - and unquestionably an appearance of a conflict. Either violates Rule 37(2). This is not a case where a Senator's organization falls within a broad class of citizens affected by legislation. Here, the lobbyist and the lobbied are the same (the NRA); and the class of beneficiaries of the legislation is very narrow: the gun industry. Nor is this a case where a Senator merely shares beliefs or policy views with an organization. Here the NRA and some of its members are financial beneficiaries of the proposed legislation.

The relationship between Senator Craig and the NRA suggests possible answers to questions regarding why the Senator has chosen to create such unique, unprecedented, and extraordinary protections for this industry and no other. If Senator Craig is concerned that manufacturers and sellers of dangerous products should not be liable when their products are misused, why does his bill not bar liability in all such cases, rather than immunizing only the NRA and other gun industry associations and companies? Senator Craig's relationship with the NRA suggests an answer to that and many other troubling questions. Such a conflict defines "appearance of impropriety."

America is faced with many dangers today, from without and within. One of those dangers is a growing cynicism among many Americans that their government caters to special interests at the expense of the average citizen. Indeed, all Americans should be troubled to watch the NRA, acting though its agent in the Senate, seek unprecedented, special immunity for itself and its fellows, while depriving victims of gun violence of their rights to seek justice in the courts. We hope this matter will be given the serious attention it deserves.

Sincerely,

Michael D. Barnes

President

(Note 1) Where there is no conflict of interest, Rule 37(6)(a) permits uncompensated service as a board member of a tax-exempt organization under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. Senate Ethics Manual at 74.


http://www.usnewswire.com/

Byrd is done

Byrd is off and Kent Conrad (D-ND) is onthe floor talking about the wisdom of Robert Byrd. Byrd just interupted him and thanks him for his words and for his wisdom and courage and insight and constructive contributions.

Conrad is going to continue talking about Budget Deficits. This is really going to be a problem for Bush as we go forward towards November.

I'm getting tired of this. I'm off to grab some lunch.

Back in a few

FDR

Now talking about how FDR - a crippled president - save the day and brought relief for everyone. The first Social Security checks came to his house - to his foster father (not his father or step father) and his mom did too (she was his aunt - his mom died in 1918 in the great influenza)

They drew social security checks His young life sounds absolutly horid.

Like I said earlier, no one in the Senate represents their constituents as well as Byrd - his partisanship aside.

He just brings home the money money money

Byrd =$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Old Time Stories

Byrd is talking about the god people of west virginia working in the coal fields when he was young, and without social security. When he was a kid 55, 60 was an old old man.

No social security. When they became old, couldnt get work and could only go to children hoping they could take them in. Many went to the county poor farm.

good people (all people who owned guns, btw - to try to keep it relevant - that is my comment, Byrd doesn't mention it)

Byrd

Robert Byrd is on the floor now talking about spending under Bush and the growth of the Gross National Debt.


Go to WV - See what a good politician does - forget abortion poltics and other special interests - Byrd has only one interest - bringing home the bacon and he does it like no one else

Another Lautenberg Amendment

Wants to protect children not the NRA and gun manufacturers

Give me a F'ing break

Funny Interchange

It is sort of telling about the whole mindset of the gun grabbers - There was some discussion about the orders of amendments to be offered on the floor, and Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) says

"Of Course, Mr. Chairman, we have to put the 1st Amendment to the side in order to get to the Second"

So fitting so fitting.

First they enact the Campaign Finance Reform Act to put the 1st Amendment to the side and prevent the NRA from criticizing them.

Now, they get to attack the Second Amendment at will without fear of election day retribution.

Terrorist

Lautenburg is going on about Terrorists. And now he is upset about the "50 caliber ASSAULT WEAPON" that can take down a helicopter, penetrate 6 inches of steel, have an incendiary head (AN EXPLOSIVE DEVICES!!!) and are accurate up to a mile away.

Oh, give me a F'ingbreak

The dangers of terrorist access to guns.

Ugh. Wants to prevent people on terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. Uh,, except they haven't been convicted of anything.


Equating your placement on watch list with being a terrorist. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Lautenberg

Ugh - Lautenberg proposes a new amendment. Ugh!!!

So glad I escaped the people republic.

My brother is coming down from their today with his modest arsenal. We are going to have a great shoot em up feast tomorrow - NRA HQ range and Bull Run Sporting Clays course.

But first a trip to the NEW AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM (my 4th trip - look for a video report on it soon).

Feel free to look for us at any of the places. I'll have my NRA-ILA shirt on

The Second Amendment,
America's Original Department of Homeland Security
Feel free to join us - I

Levin and gross negligence

Now he is quoting a law professor - the most liberal law professor at Georgetown University - saying this is the most reckless and wholesale change of the common law tort system ever.


Uhm . . . I don't know about that. I could think of a few other items that are a bit worse. Ill post them later

I think he is finsihing up though

Levin's Back

Leahy's off, and Levins back talking about the gross negligence of gun dealers in making sales to criminals.

The problem is that everything he is discussing here - if the violations of the law really happened, then the suits would still be able to go forward.

He is upset that someone spent cash to buy a gun. That is sufficient evidence to go to a jury.

Robert Byrd

Robert Byrd wants to get on the floor - he has interupted and now Harry Reid, (D-NV) is explaining that they might not have time for him. They are telling him to come back later today.

Leahy Continues

Still not sure what happened on the floor. I've sent some emails out, but havn'theard back yet. Hopefully I will soon (Blackberry's Rule!!!)

Leahy is attacking the Bush administration now for refusing to join land mine treaties and for the land mine policy of the Administration

Important Message from the NRA

On Wednesday morning, the U.S. Senate began to debate S. 1805—the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" (formerly referenced as S. 659/S. 1806.) A bi-partisan 75-22 vote allowed debate to proceed, lifting the threat of a filibuster.

The debate continued late into the evening with no substantive movement on the bill and no additional votes were taken. Senators did, however, reach a "Unanimous Consent Agreement" spelling out specific amendments that would be permitted to be offered during the debate in anticipation of a final vote on the underlying measure next Tuesday.

On Thursday, the Senate reconvened and first considered was an amendment by anti-gun Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) that would require all handguns be sold with a mechanical safety device approved by the Consumer Product Safety Commission(CPSC). This amendment was then replaced with a "second degree" amendment by Sen. Herb Kohl (D-WI). The Kohl amendment is much less restrictive and also provides liability protection for gun owners. The revised amendment passed 70-27.

The Senate next debated an amendment by Sen. Ben Nighthorse Campbell (R-CO) which would permit current and retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed firearms off duty in other states. Arguing hysterically against the amendment, anti-gun Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA) revealed his deep distrust of gun carrying even by sworn police officers. A vote on the Campbell amendment was deferred until Tuesday.

Sen. Kennedy then introduced an amendment to ban the manufacture and sale of "armor-piercing" ammunition. Kennedy, who actually condemned the .30-30 Winchester cartridge during debate, wants to institute a "performance-based" standard that would grant any future Attorney General sweeping authority to ban any center-fire ammunition, including most common-place rifle hunting ammunition. The standard proposed by Sen. Kennedy was rejected in the 1980s as overly broad and unnecessary to meet any threat posed to law enforcement officers` safety. A vote on this NRA-opposed amendment will take place Tuesday.

The Senate next debated and voted upon two amendments seeking to gut S. 1805. The first related to the D.C. sniper case, but the proposal by Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) was defeated, 56-40. A "law enforcement" exemption offered by Sen. John Corzine (D-NJ) was soundly defeated, 56 to 38.

NRA strongly opposed both amendments. One of the strengths of S. 1805 is that it adopts the same rules for all plaintiffs, no matter how sympathetic or unsympathetic, and no matter how notorious or mundane their victimization. Plaintiffs` rights should depend on settled principles of law, not on emotion or sympathy.

NRA-ILA stands totally committed to enacting S. 1805 without anti-gun amendments, and will continue to vigorously oppose any reauthorization of the 1994 Clinton gun ban and any attempt to ban gun shows.

Please continue to contact your U.S. Senators at (202) 224-3121 and urge them to support S. 1805 without any anti-gun amendments. Call ILA`s Grassroots staff at (800) 392-8683, or visit http://www.nraila.org/stoprecklesslawsuits.aspx for additional information and to utilize the "Write Your Representatives" feature to contact your U.S. Senators.

Decorum

As annoying as some people are and as heated as the disagreements are, one thing I really do like about our system over other parlimentary systems (england, for example) if that our representatives maintain a certain amount of respect and decorum while on the floor and are always calling each other friends and respectable. At the end of the day, these guys really are chummy. Its a small club and whatever their disagrements and whatever tricks they are up to behind the scenes, most of them genuinly respect each other.

Whenever I see it occur, I retain hope for the future.


Leahy, is talking about a helicopter trip to jungles in the mountains of Nicaragua and discussing a kid who lost his leg to a landmine and the kid didnt know whether it was planted by a Sandanista or Contra. All the kid knew was that he lost his leg. Its actually a rather touching story. Leahy is a good orator.


Someone just completly interupted, didnt see what happened, but there was a bit of a disturbance. Leahy is a little ticked off.

Levin Yields

Levin just stopped his drivel on the illegal use of guns and they are back to discussing scheduling and parlimentary procedures

Leahy is asking to proceed for 10 minutes in place of Levin. Leahy wants to talk about Land Mines and reserve the right for Levin to come back up.

Craig is reserving the right to object, but has no problem with the switch. Leahy is begining the land mine discussion.

Mrs. Palzgraf

The lawyers out there will appreciate Levins concern over proximate cause. I just remind everyone of poorMrs. Palzgraf

Well, Color Me Wrong

Just as I posted about Warner, he finished. Now Levin is up talking about Bulls Eye and how neither Muhamad or Malvo could legally purchase the gun and stole it.

So tell me, why have they sued Bushmaster????????

He is saying bullseye operated its business in such a gross manner and that bushmaster continued to supply dealer evern after years of audits showed how bad an apple bulls eye was.

SO wait - is Bushmaster good or bad????? Levin is suggesting they are grossly negligent. Aaaah, I dont think so, and thats why I dont like his amendment

Warner

Still talking about medical malpractice ... according to our medical care person here this debate might last a bit today.

Warner Levin Amendment

They just pushed Levin's Amendment through in order to allow John Warner to introduce an amendment.

He's my senator (also married to Liz Taylor at one point). He says it is a heartfelt personal amanemdnets. He is going on about his father - and devouting his life to medical establishment. WWI as a doctor

Amendment states that if certain protections are addorded to guns then they should also be afforded to medical profession - I agree, but the problem is this is a poison pill - Ds can never go for it and will force them to vote against entire bill. This amendment is going to fail because of that.

But Listen, ifyou ca, to warner, or read teh transcript tonite. He is saying important things about medical profession.

now is talkingabout his gun collection - he got his first when he was 9 and has a modest collection

He thinks if Senate moves forward, the medical profession also get protection from needless lawsuits.

I Beat Drudge

DRUDGE's headline right now is that Kerry was ranked most liberal.

For what its worth, I beat his scoop by 15 minutes

To see the top 10 and bottom 10 senators, you need to scroll all the way down. I don't know why the tables are coming out this way.

Levin Amendment

2631 - Gross Negligence or Reckless Conduct

They are reading the language of the amendment. It sounds like it covers gross negligence. I need to check it out. Might be reasonable, but I expect there is some trick in the amendment.

They are having a quorum call to enable review of the amendment (stops the clerk from reading it)

Warner

John Warner (R-VA) Just said he will support Levin's amendment. His response to me when I called AND wrote concering debate was completly unacceptable. I'll post it tonite (its at home) but it was a complete non answer saying he wont be swayed by the evil forces at NRA.

Carl Levin

Wants to offer an amendment, but he and craig are bickering over the introduction of his amendment and whether or not there will be a vote on it today. Craig doesnt know and referred him to leadership and their debate schedule.

Levin doesnt want to vote today (he wants to vote on Wedensday) he just wants to introduce his amendment today.

When their done bickering Ill try to summarize better whats going on

Reed on bad dealers

Reed just called Bushmaster a good company!!! Then why are they being SUED???????

He is listing all sorts of bad dealers and points out one is owned (or at least the land it is located on) by a reputed mobster - Is he an Anti Italian Racist? Heck, we ought to ban new york city generally, since most of the land is probably associated with a reputed mobster or his business interests

Style and Punctuation

Please excuse any typos and other flaws I've made the last couple of days as I furious blog away and provide shot by shot details. Fast fingers equal sloppy work

Things will return to their usual detail after the debate

Savage and other Mfgs

well, reeds now questioning whether they are being pushed into bankruptcy - he called Savage an honorable company - and now points out that they went into Bankruptcy in 1988 because - according to the CEO - they had too many employees and too many products - they streamlined products and fired 400 employees and since that time they have done well and are doing well - Is this true? I don't know, but thats what Reed is stating.


He is also talking about FN, H&K and Browning and how they are all foreign firms. He thinks its ok to rely on overseas copanies -a nd says we go overseas now to get superior weapons (BUT ISNT THAT THE POINT _ WE AREN"T MAKING THEM HERE ANYMORE????)

Jack Reed (D-RI) Blah Blah Blah

Reed is on and rambling about Bulls eye and the standards of care they employeed.

A lot of this so far today is just a rehtorical waste of time - nothing new being said - so I am going to limit my reports until the action heats up.

It Has Happened before

Craig rebuts their lies, protectiosn have happened before -

with General Aviation liability limits
with Homeland Security bill - small mfgs and sellers of anti terrorist activities

There is a significant list of these examples where Congress has protected a specific sector from burdensome and unfair litigation.

He is stepping down right now, to make room for Reed and Sen. Levin who is going to offer an amendment.

"We are not going to suggest to law abiding citizens that you ought to bear the cost of law breakers" "putting misusers of firearms behind bars is what we should be doing"

"Because the anti gun community hasnt succedded in legislating, they now run to the courts and activists judges"

Craig Again

Its a second amendment right they are trying to take away!!!

Thank You Sen. Craig

Sen. Craig just called the Banners out for what they are.

He is railing on about how ridiculous their claims are - that swiss army should be sued for stabbings, that Lousiville slugger should be sued for beatings, etc etc that ford is responsible for drunk dirvers

He is also talking about how the lawsuits are only about raising the cost of firearms and running the mfg's out of business.

QUoting Savage Arms union steward - only have 158 employees, down from over 500 because of the cost of fighting lawsuits.

Again questioning where themilitary and cops go for guns if the firearms mfg,s close doors.

Go Larry Go!!

John Kerry and Gun Control

Yesterday, the more conservative senator from Taxachussets proposed an armor piercing buller amendment that would have banned, amongst other rounds, all .30-30, .30-06, .308, 273 win, and .300 Win Mag.

I just wonder what John"Sportsman My Ass" Kerry would think about this amendment?

Back On

I'm Back, Larry Craig is repeating - once again - what the bill doesn't do and exposing the gun grabbers lies for what they are

NRA ALert

GeekWithA.45 just posted a communication he recieved from the NRA. As he states at the end


Obviously, there are pieces of the Legislative puzzle missing, and if we knew what they were, assessment would probably be a snap. Since we're operating in an environment of incomplete information, the uncertaintly level is never going to be comfortable.


Yes, this is true. What the NRA is talking about and what many of the less savy (but by no means less honorable) gun control groups don't understand with regad to this bill, is that what we see on the senate floor right now is irrelevant. Whatever the senate passes then heads to a conference between the Senate and the House. At conference, the differences between both bills will be worked out and a final bill, to be voted on by both houses will emerge. It is the final bill, post conference, that goes to the President. Since R's control both houses of Congress, they get to pick who sits at the conference table. I explained this somewhat in discussing Boxer's trigger lock amendment.

As the NRA points out, the House won't let these amendments pass. They are outside themainstream and represent the liberal fringes of the party. Some of them (the armor piercing bullet amendment) are so looney I don't even think Kerry would vote for them. At the end of the day, this means that ALL these amendments will be stripped out of the final bill (yes, even the DC gun ban thing if they suspect that will prevent final passage) before it is voted on again. At that stage, there is no more oportunity for amendments and the president will get a nice clean bill to sign. The underlying bill passed the senate overwhelmingly. No one is going to go back and vote against it now, especially if it doesnt conain amenemdnts.

We have almost nothing to fear, but our own UNINFORMED advocates.

Please people, I know many have concerns with the NRA, but they are really the 900 pound gorilla in Washington. They got that way by being SMART!. The Gun Grabbers are smart, its time Gun Owners smartened up. Don't oppose these efforts. The process will work itself out. There won't be an assault weapons ban extension. They wont get to close down gun shows. They won't get to ban .30-30 ammo. They wont force new safety technology on handguns. Nothing, nada, zero bad is going to happen if we play the game - and remember it is a game. The ruels are set, they are often confusing for those not in Washington, but we can work the system, and we will work the system.

Victory is in site. Keep the calls to your Senators going. Keep your hopes up. Lets not fall into VPC's trap!

Kerry Video

Was wondering if anyone can direct me to a video source of the Demovcratic Parties South Carolina Debates.

I've tried the MSNBC site, but their video is encoded in a special format that requires a window's PC to use (and which I can't subsequently cut up and use in my own video)

So, if anyone has a copy (or better yet, can send me to a quick time or DV streamed copy), please email me - countertop -AT- verizon.net

I'll make it worth your while.
Thanks

Edwards and Kerry - Liberals All The Same

National Journal just released(subscription req'd) its Senate Composites, rating each member of the Senate from most liberal to most conservative, based upon their voting record in 2003.

Anyone who believes that Edwards is a more mainstream alternative to Kerry ought to look at these numbers.

I've posted the 11 most liberal (to include the Chapaquidick Killer) and the 10 most conservative.

Most Liberal To Most Conservative





















































































































































































































Senator More Liberal
Than _% Of The Senate
More Conservative
Than _% Of The Senate
John Kerry, D-Mass. 97 4
Paul Sarbanes, D-Md. 95 5
Jack Reed, D-R.I. 95 5
John Edwards, D-N.C. 95 6
Barbara Boxer, D-Calif. 91 9
Russell Feingold, D-Wis. 90 11
Tom Harkin, D-Iowa 89 11
Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. 89 11
Carl Levin, D-Mich. 89 11
Hillary Rodham Clinton,
D-N.Y.
89 11
Edward Kennedy, D-Mass. 88 12
Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. 14 87
Jim Bunning, R-Ky. 14 87
Thad Cochran, R-Miss. 14 87
Conrad Burns, R-Mont. 14 87
Rick Santorum, R-Pa. 14 87
Bill Frist, R-Tenn. 14 87
John Cornyn, R-Texas 14 87
Orrin Hatch, R-Utah 14 87
George Allen, R-Va. 14 87
Craig Thomas, R-Wyo. 14 87


Publishing Help

Hey, I need some HTML/blogger help

Can someone check out my source codes and tell me why the tables I am posting appear so messed up? Appreciate it. You can email me at countertop - AT- verizon.net

Thanks

Debate outlook

Being a Friday, I don't expect the debate to produce too much news today. Traffic was exceptionally light coming into town (my usual 45 minute commute was only 15) and most people seem to have left for the beautiful weekend already. Things might get lively on the floor, but I don't see any of the important items coming up today - ie: assualt weapons ban (which might be attached if Kerry and Edwards show up on Tuesday) and the gun show portion.

If we do have anything occur today and/or monday - I would look for final votes on the concealed carry amendment as well as Hatch's bill to overturn the DC Gun Ban (if that passes - I stand a strong chance of leaving the burbs and moving into the city - quality of the schools would be the only thing keeping me away).

Baby's Are People Too

The House passed, by a 254-163 vote, legislation (HR 1997) on Friday which established a seperate offense for federal crimes against pregnant women that harm fetuses. Most importantly, the legislation defines an "unborn child" as a "member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."

I offer no further commentary on this subject - except to say free will gives us all the choice to do whats right and wrong each and every day. Some choose one path, some choose another.

Debate

The Senate is set to convene and resume consideration of S. 1805, and all the various amendments, at 9:30 a.m. As I stated before going to sleep last night, I've got a meeting from 10-11, so things will be quite here for the first hour.

Feel Free To Browse

To everyone here for the blow by blow on the gun debate . . . . feel free to bookmark me (or better yet, blogroll me) and browse the site. I highly recommend the John Kerry reading . . .

Once the firearms debate's over, I'll be back to my normal slightly offkilter left of liberal right wing ramblings.

I've got a mornign meeting from 10 - 11, so the blogging might not start until afterwards.

see you then



Time remaining until AW Ban expiration:










Feel Free To Browse

To everyone here for the blow by blow on the gun debate . . . . feel free to bookmark me (or better yet, blogroll me) and browse the site. I highly recommend the John Kerry reading . . .

Once the firearms debate's over, I'll be back to my normal slightly offkilter left of liberal right wing ramblings.

I've got a mornign meeting from 10 - 11, so the blogging might not start until afterwards.

see you then



Time remaining until AW Ban expiration:










Corzine Amendment - Law enforcement Law suits

John Corzine (A billionaire Senator - former head of Goldman Sachs investments so he is probably culpable in Enron, Worldcom, or some other fraud - from New Jersey) offered an amendment that none of the bill's provisions would prohibit an officer or employee of any federal, state or local law enforcement agency from recovering damages authorized under federal or state law in a civil action. This would have gutted the bill and given any big city police chief or mayor the right to do what they are doing now and again abuse the process.

Corzine Amdt. 2629
Rejected by a vote of 38-56








YEAs ---38
Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)









NAYs ---56
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Dole (R-NC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)









Not Voting -
6
Campbell (R-CO)
Domenici (R-NM)
Edwards (D-NC)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Murkowski (R-AK)


Thursday, February 26, 2004

Frist Amendment - Law Enforcement Lawsuits

Senator Frist (R-TN) propsoed an amendment that clarified that an officer or employee of any federal, state or local law enforcement agency could recover damages authorized under federal or state law in a civil action as long as the lawsuit qualifies for an exemption under the provisions of the underlying bill.

Frist Amdt. No. 2630
Adopted by a vote of 60-34:








YEAs ---60
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dole (R-NC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)









NAYs ---34
Akaka (D-HI)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)









Not Voting -
6
Campbell (R-CO)
Domenici (R-NM)
Edwards (D-NC)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Murkowski (R-AK)



Sniper Lawsuit Amendment - Mikulski Version

Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) proposed an amendment that created a specific exemption in the underlying bill to permit lawsuits involving a shooting victim of the October 2002 sniper attacks in the Washington, D.C. area.

Mikulski Amdt. No. 2627
Rejected by a vote of 40-56








YEAs ---40
Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dayton (D-MN)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)









NAYs ---56
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)









Not Voting -
4
Campbell (R-CO)
Edwards (D-NC)
Kerry (D-MA)
Murkowski (R-AK)